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		<title>By: SALEM FARM SUPPLY, INC. (commentary) ; Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty &#171; salemfarmsupply</title>
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		<dc:creator>SALEM FARM SUPPLY, INC. (commentary) ; Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty &#171; salemfarmsupply</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article that gets to the heart of the matter.</description>
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		<title>By: Drik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NET ZERO

A new study from the San Francisco Fed uses the variation in state-level stimulus funding to determine what impact ARRA funding had on employment — including both the direct impact of workers hired to complete planned projects, as well as any broader spillover effects resulting from greater government spending. Administration economists have repeatedly emphasized the importance of this indirect employment growth in driving economic recovery. 
The results suggest that though Presbo&#039;s $787 billion “stimulus” spending did result in 2 million jobs “created or saved” by March 2010, net job creation was statistically indistinguishable from zero by August of this year. Taken at face value, this would suggest that the stimulus program (with an overall cost of $814 billion) worked only to generate temporary jobs at a cost of over $400,000 per worker. 
 
Nice work, if you can get it.</description>
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<p>A new study from the San Francisco Fed uses the variation in state-level stimulus funding to determine what impact ARRA funding had on employment — including both the direct impact of workers hired to complete planned projects, as well as any broader spillover effects resulting from greater government spending. Administration economists have repeatedly emphasized the importance of this indirect employment growth in driving economic recovery.<br />
The results suggest that though Presbo&#8217;s $787 billion “stimulus” spending did result in 2 million jobs “created or saved” by March 2010, net job creation was statistically indistinguishable from zero by August of this year. Taken at face value, this would suggest that the stimulus program (with an overall cost of $814 billion) worked only to generate temporary jobs at a cost of over $400,000 per worker. </p>
<p>Nice work, if you can get it.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More sound economic analysis, and less unbacked claims, and less opinions quite frankly, and certainly less opinions-passed-off-as-facts, and FEE&#039;s credibility will rise and rise and rise.  Cause-and-effect discussions = the only real form of discussion that fosters understanding.

For the most part, this article follows the above theme -- I forgive Randall Holcombe for inserting a few of his opinions in between the solid analysis.  Keep this up, FEE!

Personal note: I learned so much in Dr. Holcombe&#039;s public choice econ class at FSU; I relished talking with him when I was his student.  I now teach econ and discuss some of the very same material above in my classes -- the &quot;unseen&quot; cause&amp;effect portions on profit/loss mechanism and incentives.  FEE can be a rich source of applications of course material, if one has the patience to sift through the sea of opinions, unbacked claims, and opinions-passed-off-as-fact to find solid cause-effect analysis.  I have that patience on most days :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More sound economic analysis, and less unbacked claims, and less opinions quite frankly, and certainly less opinions-passed-off-as-facts, and FEE&#8217;s credibility will rise and rise and rise.  Cause-and-effect discussions = the only real form of discussion that fosters understanding.</p>
<p>For the most part, this article follows the above theme &#8212; I forgive Randall Holcombe for inserting a few of his opinions in between the solid analysis.  Keep this up, FEE!</p>
<p>Personal note: I learned so much in Dr. Holcombe&#8217;s public choice econ class at FSU; I relished talking with him when I was his student.  I now teach econ and discuss some of the very same material above in my classes &#8212; the &#8220;unseen&#8221; cause&amp;effect portions on profit/loss mechanism and incentives.  FEE can be a rich source of applications of course material, if one has the patience to sift through the sea of opinions, unbacked claims, and opinions-passed-off-as-fact to find solid cause-effect analysis.  I have that patience on most days <img src='http://www.thefreemanonline.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: voteright</title>
		<link>http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/transforming-america-the-bush-obama-stimulus-programs/comment-page-1/#comment-34015</link>
		<dc:creator>voteright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  Everyone read two other books:  &quot;The Obama Nation&quot; by Jerome Corsi and &quot;Bought and Paid For&quot; by Charles Gasparino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  Everyone read two other books:  &#8220;The Obama Nation&#8221; by Jerome Corsi and &#8220;Bought and Paid For&#8221; by Charles Gasparino.</p>
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		<title>By: Recovery Slowing, Fed Says &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recovery Slowing, Fed Says &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Timely Classic &#8220;Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs&#8221; by Randall G. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Deefburger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deefburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have only to estimate via the rules and normal accounting what the secret balance sheet at the Fed really says, and know how much THEY owe US.

A fractional reserve bank is always in the red to the economy.  It is the nature of not having real assets as the product of the bank.  Instead, it issues unbacked notes into the economy and through this one act generates a debt that the bank has relative to the economy it traded those notes with. No amount of fiscal yoga will make that debt disappear.  Only obfuscation in the legal code and secret books immune from public audit.

Take the fight to them yourselves.   Google: &quot;Code Redemption 411&quot;

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=37276</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have only to estimate via the rules and normal accounting what the secret balance sheet at the Fed really says, and know how much THEY owe US.</p>
<p>A fractional reserve bank is always in the red to the economy.  It is the nature of not having real assets as the product of the bank.  Instead, it issues unbacked notes into the economy and through this one act generates a debt that the bank has relative to the economy it traded those notes with. No amount of fiscal yoga will make that debt disappear.  Only obfuscation in the legal code and secret books immune from public audit.</p>
<p>Take the fight to them yourselves.   Google: &#8220;Code Redemption 411&#8243;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=37276" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=37276</a></p>
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		<title>By: Recovery Loses Momentum &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recovery Loses Momentum &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Timely Classic &#8220;Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs&#8221; by Randall G. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why call it the Bush/Obama stimulus?  They are at the mercy of their advisers. And their advisers are the Fed and their satraps. Since they are ALL Keynesians, what would you expect??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why call it the Bush/Obama stimulus?  They are at the mercy of their advisers. And their advisers are the Fed and their satraps. Since they are ALL Keynesians, what would you expect??</p>
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		<title>By: Wind Down &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; Spending, Rich Countries Told &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wind Down &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; Spending, Rich Countries Told &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Timely Classic &#8220;Transforming America: The Bush-Obama Stimulus Programs&#8221; by Randall G. [...]</description>
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