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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe Schmoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Schmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Corey

The spelling mistakes are not the fault of the author.  Most of the older articles on this website were published in print first and then probably scanned via a computer into a digital form when this website went up.  The mistakes are largely the fault of the conversion process from print to digital.

In any case, few movies are made solely to entertain.  Sure there are a few, almost always action flicks, that are mainly just mindless violence.  And the movies based off of some kind of derivative work (book, comic series, etc.) are directed mainly to garner a nostalgic appeal and so are more likely to advance the agenda of the original author, if any, rather than that of the director or script writers.  But the majority of the remainder have a political message to impart, whether it be subtle or overt.

Avatar is a good, recent example: a clear case of anti-corporation, pro-environment rhetoric.</description>
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<p>The spelling mistakes are not the fault of the author.  Most of the older articles on this website were published in print first and then probably scanned via a computer into a digital form when this website went up.  The mistakes are largely the fault of the conversion process from print to digital.</p>
<p>In any case, few movies are made solely to entertain.  Sure there are a few, almost always action flicks, that are mainly just mindless violence.  And the movies based off of some kind of derivative work (book, comic series, etc.) are directed mainly to garner a nostalgic appeal and so are more likely to advance the agenda of the original author, if any, rather than that of the director or script writers.  But the majority of the remainder have a political message to impart, whether it be subtle or overt.</p>
<p>Avatar is a good, recent example: a clear case of anti-corporation, pro-environment rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message of &quot;Forest Gump&quot; is pure existentialism:  there is no destiny, there is no logical reason for anything, there is no purpose.  Why?  Because everything happens by chance.  All of the sinister descriptions of the movie miss the point.  It isn&#039;t glorifying stupidity anymore than it is glorifying anything.  I certainly don&#039;t agree with its point of view, but it is a brilliant, artistic portrait of the idea that there is absolutely no meaning to existence, that nothing really matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message of &#8220;Forest Gump&#8221; is pure existentialism:  there is no destiny, there is no logical reason for anything, there is no purpose.  Why?  Because everything happens by chance.  All of the sinister descriptions of the movie miss the point.  It isn&#8217;t glorifying stupidity anymore than it is glorifying anything.  I certainly don&#8217;t agree with its point of view, but it is a brilliant, artistic portrait of the idea that there is absolutely no meaning to existence, that nothing really matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message of &quot;Forest Gump&quot; is pure existentialism:  there is no destiny, there is no logical reason for anything, there is no purpose.  Why?  Because everything happens by chance.  All of the sinister descriptions of the movie miss the point.  It isn&#039;t glorifying stupidity anymore than it is glorifying anything.  I certainly don&#039;t agree with its point of view, but it is a brilliant, artistic portrait of the idea that there is absolutely no meaning to existence, that nothing really matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message of &#8220;Forest Gump&#8221; is pure existentialism:  there is no destiny, there is no logical reason for anything, there is no purpose.  Why?  Because everything happens by chance.  All of the sinister descriptions of the movie miss the point.  It isn&#8217;t glorifying stupidity anymore than it is glorifying anything.  I certainly don&#8217;t agree with its point of view, but it is a brilliant, artistic portrait of the idea that there is absolutely no meaning to existence, that nothing really matters.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realize Gump had talent, right? He wasn&#039;t a great runner because he was told to run. He just hadn&#039;t known he had the talent. He was a great ping pong player because he could stay focused on the game. Again, talent. 
Jenny wasn&#039;t in abusive relationships because she was smart. It&#039;s because she was abused as a child. Follow this link http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/svaw/domestic/link/theories.htm. Read this part &quot; (A recent study reported by the Family Violence Prevention Fund does indicate, however, that women who were physically or sexually abused as children may be more likely to be abused as adults.)&quot; . In other words, she was looking for a man just like her father. Seriously, this was lost on you?
Jenny didn&#039;t get AIDS due to being smart. She got AIDS by having unprotected sex and sharing needles. This all goes back to her being abused as a child. She&#039;s trying to get away from the memories of her childhood. 
Lieutenant Dan walked again because he found peace. What&#039;s wrong with that? Instead of  giving into self pity he chose to live. And he owed this to Forrest not giving up on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize Gump had talent, right? He wasn&#8217;t a great runner because he was told to run. He just hadn&#8217;t known he had the talent. He was a great ping pong player because he could stay focused on the game. Again, talent.<br />
Jenny wasn&#8217;t in abusive relationships because she was smart. It&#8217;s because she was abused as a child. Follow this link <a href="http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/svaw/domestic/link/theories.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/svaw/domestic/link/theories.htm</a>. Read this part &#8221; (A recent study reported by the Family Violence Prevention Fund does indicate, however, that women who were physically or sexually abused as children may be more likely to be abused as adults.)&#8221; . In other words, she was looking for a man just like her father. Seriously, this was lost on you?<br />
Jenny didn&#8217;t get AIDS due to being smart. She got AIDS by having unprotected sex and sharing needles. This all goes back to her being abused as a child. She&#8217;s trying to get away from the memories of her childhood.<br />
Lieutenant Dan walked again because he found peace. What&#8217;s wrong with that? Instead of  giving into self pity he chose to live. And he owed this to Forrest not giving up on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LIEK TEH PART WHAR THE GUY WITHOUT LEGS GETS SHOT WITH A SHRIMP HARPOON LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLOLLOLOOL</description>
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		<title>By: Stan Heard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Heard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that an article written in 1995 can still elicit responses.  I am a Vietnam veteran so perhaps my comments are tainted by an admiration for Gump&#039;s qualities.

I believe the story makes a distinction between &quot;stupidity&quot; and &quot;intellect&quot;.  Gump knows that he is not smart but he also knows that &quot;Stupid is as stupid does.&quot;  He understands that it is stupid to be dishonest about himself and others; to lie, cheat, or steal; to ignore the individuality of himself and others.  Gump seems to understand that character is more important to success in life than the cleverness of intellect.  Lord knows, we Americans seem to be willing to let intellectuals without character run our government and our lives just because they can cleverly manage the political landscape.

Perhaps if I were more intellectual I could make a living as a university professor and see the subversive nature of this movie.  But I would have lose my vision for the American character portrayed by Gump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that an article written in 1995 can still elicit responses.  I am a Vietnam veteran so perhaps my comments are tainted by an admiration for Gump&#8217;s qualities.</p>
<p>I believe the story makes a distinction between &#8220;stupidity&#8221; and &#8220;intellect&#8221;.  Gump knows that he is not smart but he also knows that &#8220;Stupid is as stupid does.&#8221;  He understands that it is stupid to be dishonest about himself and others; to lie, cheat, or steal; to ignore the individuality of himself and others.  Gump seems to understand that character is more important to success in life than the cleverness of intellect.  Lord knows, we Americans seem to be willing to let intellectuals without character run our government and our lives just because they can cleverly manage the political landscape.</p>
<p>Perhaps if I were more intellectual I could make a living as a university professor and see the subversive nature of this movie.  But I would have lose my vision for the American character portrayed by Gump.</p>
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		<title>By: sai</title>
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		<dc:creator>sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no problems with that movie.just do what u r supposed to do without keeping results in mind is best message to be given for mankind which this movie has given.holy book geetha quotes similar kind.audience will take what they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no problems with that movie.just do what u r supposed to do without keeping results in mind is best message to be given for mankind which this movie has given.holy book geetha quotes similar kind.audience will take what they need.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Corey

&quot;movies are meant for entertainment purposes&quot;

Some see them as an art form and more than just mere entertainment. Of course you could make the argument that art criticism is similarly pointless, but I believe to reflect upon a work by entertaining a variety of viewpoints from one&#039;s peers allows the individual to draw his or her own conclusions. 
You do no have to agree with the writer of this article, but getting angry over them is unnecessary. Use what you have read to further cement your own views, don&#039;t see it as a pointless exercise.

Personally, I am inclined to agree that Gump is a subversive movie, but not in the sense that it promotes anti-intellectualism. Rather, I think it promotes blind patriotism and the value of religion over reason (which could I suppose be seen as derivatives of anti-intellectualism). 

When all&#039;s said, it&#039;s a fun feature to watch, and it entertains, but it is an insult to the writer of the film to say that entertainment is its main end.</description>
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<p>&#8220;movies are meant for entertainment purposes&#8221;</p>
<p>Some see them as an art form and more than just mere entertainment. Of course you could make the argument that art criticism is similarly pointless, but I believe to reflect upon a work by entertaining a variety of viewpoints from one&#8217;s peers allows the individual to draw his or her own conclusions.<br />
You do no have to agree with the writer of this article, but getting angry over them is unnecessary. Use what you have read to further cement your own views, don&#8217;t see it as a pointless exercise.</p>
<p>Personally, I am inclined to agree that Gump is a subversive movie, but not in the sense that it promotes anti-intellectualism. Rather, I think it promotes blind patriotism and the value of religion over reason (which could I suppose be seen as derivatives of anti-intellectualism). </p>
<p>When all&#8217;s said, it&#8217;s a fun feature to watch, and it entertains, but it is an insult to the writer of the film to say that entertainment is its main end.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I got angrier and angrier as I read this article. First I would like to point out that for all the credibility we are supposed to give this person, there sure were a lot of spelling mistakes, and they have the nerve to get on the lack of intellect in the film. Secondly, Skoble is treating this film like it is a weapon. He doesn&#039;t like what it portrays, says it&#039;s too dangerous, well that&#039;s what life is. Hitler is a bad influence and yet we still teach kids about him. I really think that Skoble is too over zealous with this analysis of the film. If every single film portrayed a good wholesome message for all to live by, movies would become  boring and unwatchable. What Skoble has to realize is that movies are meant for entertainment purposes, so to knock a film&#039;s message when all it is trying to do is entertain, is rather obnoxious. This is why critics and analyzers of film should never be taken seriously, especially when they themselves can not do the very thing they are critiquing others for doing. Apparently we should never show movies with sad endings because it is a bad influence. People need to realize that life isn&#039;t all about good messages, or even bad messages, it is, like a box of chocolates, very diverse. Skoble needs to stop being a sensitive wuss and watch a film like Goodfellas, then maybe Skoble will learn that he, life can&#039;t be the way they want it to be all the time. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I got angrier and angrier as I read this article. First I would like to point out that for all the credibility we are supposed to give this person, there sure were a lot of spelling mistakes, and they have the nerve to get on the lack of intellect in the film. Secondly, Skoble is treating this film like it is a weapon. He doesn&#8217;t like what it portrays, says it&#8217;s too dangerous, well that&#8217;s what life is. Hitler is a bad influence and yet we still teach kids about him. I really think that Skoble is too over zealous with this analysis of the film. If every single film portrayed a good wholesome message for all to live by, movies would become  boring and unwatchable. What Skoble has to realize is that movies are meant for entertainment purposes, so to knock a film&#8217;s message when all it is trying to do is entertain, is rather obnoxious. This is why critics and analyzers of film should never be taken seriously, especially when they themselves can not do the very thing they are critiquing others for doing. Apparently we should never show movies with sad endings because it is a bad influence. People need to realize that life isn&#8217;t all about good messages, or even bad messages, it is, like a box of chocolates, very diverse. Skoble needs to stop being a sensitive wuss and watch a film like Goodfellas, then maybe Skoble will learn that he, life can&#8217;t be the way they want it to be all the time. Get over it.</p>
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