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		<title>By: Health Insurance Vote Still Unclear &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Insurance Vote Still Unclear &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Obama Visits Congress, Pushes Health Care : The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: STG</title>
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		<dc:creator>STG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheldon, there are two different &quot;we&quot;&#039;s in action here.  One is, arguably, the one you mention, the collectivist &quot;we.&quot;  I say arguably, because there has been quite an outpouring of opposition to the currently proposed legislative acts, an opposition which is even based in very many cases on the correct idea of individuals having ownership of, and control over, their own lives.

The second &quot;we&quot; is the one that is not getting noticed--not as such.  It is, alarmingly and shamefully, nothing other than the royal &quot;we&quot; which our country, and others, revolted against and found revolting.  One part of the arrogance of leftist political figures--sometimes misnamed &quot;leaders&quot;--is the presumption that their own view of morality and government is not only the correct one but the only one.  &quot;We&quot; must do this,&quot; no less than in the days of Henry VIII, thus translates to &quot;this is going to be done by those ordained in your name and you had best keep quiet about it and so will you keep your head on your shoulders.&quot;

Undoubtedly, the Marxist/communist junk that is being foisted upon Americans nowadays differs from anything that was prominent in Olde Englande.  I am simply pointing out that the current virulent collectivism exists as a philosophy held by certain men, and that those men are foisting it on the nation by, among other things, attempting to gain and exercise control of public debate and of major public means of education and communication.  The question is, of course, whether the nation will continue to accept being foisted upon, so to speak.  I hope and think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheldon, there are two different &#8220;we&#8221;&#8216;s in action here.  One is, arguably, the one you mention, the collectivist &#8220;we.&#8221;  I say arguably, because there has been quite an outpouring of opposition to the currently proposed legislative acts, an opposition which is even based in very many cases on the correct idea of individuals having ownership of, and control over, their own lives.</p>
<p>The second &#8220;we&#8221; is the one that is not getting noticed&#8211;not as such.  It is, alarmingly and shamefully, nothing other than the royal &#8220;we&#8221; which our country, and others, revolted against and found revolting.  One part of the arrogance of leftist political figures&#8211;sometimes misnamed &#8220;leaders&#8221;&#8211;is the presumption that their own view of morality and government is not only the correct one but the only one.  &#8220;We&#8221; must do this,&#8221; no less than in the days of Henry VIII, thus translates to &#8220;this is going to be done by those ordained in your name and you had best keep quiet about it and so will you keep your head on your shoulders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Undoubtedly, the Marxist/communist junk that is being foisted upon Americans nowadays differs from anything that was prominent in Olde Englande.  I am simply pointing out that the current virulent collectivism exists as a philosophy held by certain men, and that those men are foisting it on the nation by, among other things, attempting to gain and exercise control of public debate and of major public means of education and communication.  The question is, of course, whether the nation will continue to accept being foisted upon, so to speak.  I hope and think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Are We Really all Healthcare Collectivists Now? &#124; Save American Freedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are We Really all Healthcare Collectivists Now? &#124; Save American Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel Shapiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care is the latest crisis du jour and is another example of the oxymoron: &quot;political solution&quot;. The current health care crisis was created by the same short-sighted irrational dialectical political non-thinking that is attempting to solve the problem.

Let&#039;s remember back to 1965 when Medicare was foisted on the American people by their so-called political leaders who decided that the government should start practicing medicine. The rest is history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care is the latest crisis du jour and is another example of the oxymoron: &#8220;political solution&#8221;. The current health care crisis was created by the same short-sighted irrational dialectical political non-thinking that is attempting to solve the problem.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s remember back to 1965 when Medicare was foisted on the American people by their so-called political leaders who decided that the government should start practicing medicine. The rest is history.</p>
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		<title>By: Speedmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speedmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful column!</description>
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		<title>By: Sandra Oates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Oates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some politicians have been concerned about infrastructure for a long time. All of the money spent on the newest quagmire war could and should have been spent on infrastructure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some politicians have been concerned about infrastructure for a long time. All of the money spent on the newest quagmire war could and should have been spent on infrastructure!</p>
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