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Bogus psychiatric commitments have always been a very routine matter in the new york state criminal justice system, under CPL 730.50. For the innocent, the legal aid society lawyer, the legal aid society counsel, the legal aid society legal expert (Bruce Thurston), and the legal aid society policy will suborne the very routine and lengthly perjury of a psychiatrist. Of course, such a defendant/respondent will not cooperate. Consequently, his lawyer will begin waiving his client’s most important right: the right to public scrutiny of the events that transpire in the court. This, of course, must include an appropriate procedural protection: a contemporaneous recording (audio and visual)of all psychiatric examinations that are relied upon. A complete copy of this recording must be immediately available to the defendant/respondent personally, and whenever such person requests it. It must be the most respected of all federal and state constitutional rights. It is the right to a meaningful guarantee of public scrutiny.
Without such a fundamental right, anything can and will occur in the courts within New York State. The court officers almost never have any public persons in their courts, and section 52 of the N.Y.S. Civil Rights Law strictly prohibited all electronic recordings and cameras to the public for many previous decades. Moreover, Judge Judy and the other fakers are not judges. They are arbitrators, and the most serious crimes are almost always tried in completely empty courtroom. The guarantee of public scrutiny has never actually existed in the state of New York. Ergo, any rights deprivation can,and very frequently, does occur.
The innocent citizen will not be able to meaningfully challenge the factual determinations upon which the certain baneful psychiatric recommendations and outrageous conclusions will be based. A CPL 730.50 commitment will generate thousands or false documents, and the legal aid lawyer will waive the rights that prohibit them during a criminal or civil jury trial.
Landlords will use the massive numbers of venal judges to enter such false documents in housing courts that plainly have no subject-matter jurisdiction.
Moreover, the baneful consequences of a lack of public scrutiny seem literally boundless.
Contact me if you are single,very young, female, speak German, have red hair and freckles. Otherwise, see my website : liebestadt.com

]]> By: Frederick Alexander Jones http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-16538 Frederick Alexander Jones Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:03:15 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-16538 THE PSYCHIATRIST AS HIGH PRIEST Bogus psychistric commitments have always been a very routine matter in the new york state criminal justice system, under CPL 730.50. For the innocent, the legal aid society lawyer, the legal aid society counsel, the legal aid society legal expert (Bruce Thurston), and the legal aid society policy will suborne the very routine and lengthly perjury of a psychiatrist. Of course, such a defendant/respondent will not cooperate. Consequently, his lawyer will begin waiving his most important right: the right to public scrutiny of the events that transpire in the court. This, of course, must include an appropriate procedural protection: a contemporaneous recording (audio and visual)of all psychiatric examinations that are relied upon. A complete copy of this recording must be immediately available to the defendant/respondent personally, and whenever such person requests it. It must be the most respected of all federal and state constitutional rights. It is the right to a meaningful guarantee of public scrutiny. Without such a fundamental right, anything can and will occur in the courts within New York State. The court officers almost never have any public persons in their courts, and section 52 of the N.Y.S. Civil Rights Law strictly prohibited all electronic recordings and cameras to the public for many previous decades. Moreover, Judge Judy and the other fakers are not judges. They are arbitrators, and the most serious crimes are almost always tried in completely empty courtroom. The guarantee of public scrutiny has never actually existed in the state of New York. Ergo, any rights deprivation can,and very frequently, does occur. The innocent citizen will not be able to meaningfully challenge the factual determinations upon which the certain baneful psychiatric recommendations and outrageous conclusions will be based. A CPL 730.50 commitment will generate thousands or false documents, and the legal aid lawyer will waive the rights that prohibit them during a criminal or civil jury trial. Landlords will use the massive numbers of venal judges to enter such false documents in housing courts that plainly have no subject-matter jurisdiction. Moreover, the baneful consequences of a lack of public scrutiny seem literally boundless. Contact me if you are single,very young, female, speak German, have red hair and freckles. Otherwise, see my website : liebestadt.com THE PSYCHIATRIST AS HIGH PRIEST
Bogus psychistric commitments have always been a very routine matter in the new york state criminal justice system, under CPL 730.50. For the innocent, the legal aid society lawyer, the legal aid society counsel, the legal aid society legal expert (Bruce Thurston), and the legal aid society policy will suborne the very routine and lengthly perjury of a psychiatrist. Of course, such a defendant/respondent will not cooperate. Consequently, his lawyer will begin waiving his most important right: the right to public scrutiny of the events that transpire in the court. This, of course, must include an appropriate procedural protection: a contemporaneous recording (audio and visual)of all psychiatric examinations that are relied upon. A complete copy of this recording must be immediately available to the defendant/respondent personally, and whenever such person requests it. It must be the most respected of all federal and state constitutional rights. It is the right to a meaningful guarantee of public scrutiny.
Without such a fundamental right, anything can and will occur in the courts within New York State. The court officers almost never have any public persons in their courts, and section 52 of the N.Y.S. Civil Rights Law strictly prohibited all electronic recordings and cameras to the public for many previous decades. Moreover, Judge Judy and the other fakers are not judges. They are arbitrators, and the most serious crimes are almost always tried in completely empty courtroom. The guarantee of public scrutiny has never actually existed in the state of New York. Ergo, any rights deprivation can,and very frequently, does occur.
The innocent citizen will not be able to meaningfully challenge the factual determinations upon which the certain baneful psychiatric recommendations and outrageous conclusions will be based. A CPL 730.50 commitment will generate thousands or false documents, and the legal aid lawyer will waive the rights that prohibit them during a criminal or civil jury trial.
Landlords will use the massive numbers of venal judges to enter such false documents in housing courts that plainly have no subject-matter jurisdiction.
Moreover, the baneful consequences of a lack of public scrutiny seem literally boundless.
Contact me if you are single,very young, female, speak German, have red hair and freckles. Otherwise, see my website : liebestadt.com

]]> By: Lynn http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-16408 Lynn Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:10:58 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-16408 The larger issue here is one in which the personal can be extrapolated out to the political. I stayed in a frustrating and unsatisfying marriage for 18 years with the "help" of Prozac. Once I finally obtained a divorce, the "need" for Prozac miraculously ended. I have heard the same from numerous friends and acquaintances. How much of Americans' current lack of outrage about the curtailment of our liberties and the ballooning tax and debt burden our government is creating, is due to the prevalence (10-15% of the population) of antidepressant use? Would that 10-15% be the fiery leadership which could spark a revolution if unmedicated? The larger issue here is one in which the personal can be extrapolated out to the political.

I stayed in a frustrating and unsatisfying marriage for 18 years with the “help” of Prozac. Once I finally obtained a divorce, the “need” for Prozac miraculously ended. I have heard the same from numerous friends and acquaintances.

How much of Americans’ current lack of outrage about the curtailment of our liberties and the ballooning tax and debt burden our government is creating, is due to the prevalence (10-15% of the population) of antidepressant use? Would that 10-15% be the fiery leadership which could spark a revolution if unmedicated?

]]> By: Rob http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-16390 Rob Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:44:27 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-16390 15 years ago I exhibited symptoms which the medical and psychiatric community referred to as "depression." They gave me medications which triggered mania, and then diagnosed me as "bipolar." Side-effects from continued medications have me left on disability for 8 years. Yes, this is a mass conspiracy, but you don't need Szasz's legal case studies to make the point necessarily. 10's of millions of people like me are diagnosed, medicated, and mothballed by sedating and fatiguing treatments. We are conveniently left in a purgatory of disability payments (if we're lucky to get them), boredom, and suffering. The drug companies, psychiatrists, and the government are all willing, if unconscious (?) participants, but so too are the "patients," although they are often helpless to resist. I am trying to fight my way out by unwinding myself from the cocktail of meds I'm on right now. People who present "mental health" symptoms do need help in the form of support from family and friends, some kind of goal-oriented therapy, and possibly temporal (not permanent) drug therapy, or other treatments. These "psychotic" symptoms come from some part of ourselves that western medicine has difficulty reaching, and often exacerbate the problem and prevent individuals from completing the "inward journey" through the difficulties and out the other side to fully regained health. Do keep an eye out for psychiatric diagnoses and treatments. I agree with many that we should keep our children, family and friends out of the trap. I know better. I wish I knew better when this whole experience started for me. 15 years ago I exhibited symptoms which the medical and psychiatric community referred to as “depression.” They gave me medications which triggered mania, and then diagnosed me as “bipolar.” Side-effects from continued medications have me left on disability for 8 years.

Yes, this is a mass conspiracy, but you don’t need Szasz’s legal case studies to make the point necessarily. 10’s of millions of people like me are diagnosed, medicated, and mothballed by sedating and fatiguing treatments. We are conveniently left in a purgatory of disability payments (if we’re lucky to get them), boredom, and suffering.

The drug companies, psychiatrists, and the government are all willing, if unconscious (?) participants, but so too are the “patients,” although they are often helpless to resist. I am trying to fight my way out by unwinding myself from the cocktail of meds I’m on right now.

People who present “mental health” symptoms do need help in the form of support from family and friends, some kind of goal-oriented therapy, and possibly temporal (not permanent) drug therapy, or other treatments. These “psychotic” symptoms come from some part of ourselves that western medicine has difficulty reaching, and often exacerbate the problem and prevent individuals from completing the “inward journey” through the difficulties and out the other side to fully regained health.

Do keep an eye out for psychiatric diagnoses and treatments. I agree with many that we should keep our children, family and friends out of the trap. I know better. I wish I knew better when this whole experience started for me.

]]> By: Tracy Alexis http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-14781 Tracy Alexis Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:01:04 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-14781 There are a few lose ends that need tying with respect to this thread of dialogue. Most importantly, there is no such thing as 'mental illness.' What there is (that psychiatrists and psychologists label as mental illenss) are numerous manifestations of unwanted or misunderstood behaviors-the root causes of which are 'professionally' (and I use that term loosely) medicated under the various labels of mental illness. "Therapy" is only, and I stress the word ONLY, truly conducted when physchiatrists and/or psychologists explore the CAUSES of those unwanted or misunderstood behaviors (not mask them with medications). The unwanted and/or misunderstood behaviors that are being medically masked are life-long traumas such as family secrets (molestation perhaps), abuse (parent to child, sibling to sibling, etc.) and collusions (let's not tell anyone just how messed up we are and maybe no one will figure it out), just to name a few. Of course, psychiatrists and psychologists are both guilty of making more and more and more money by billing insurance companies (or Medicaid) as they quickly cycle patients in and out of their offices with a swift diagnosis of mental illness and an RX for a dangerously potent life-altering chemical lobotomy. It takes TIME to explore the underlying causes of trauma. There is no money to be made with spending untold hours of TIME with a patient to discover and understand the real causes underlying his/her traumas. It is much more efficient, for the so-called professional, to get the patient in, slap a label on him/her, give them an RX, usher them out the door and cycle in the next victim for the same quick treatment. What is so blatantly egregious is that Americans have allowed themselves to be so misled for so long by so many so-called 'professionals.' If you are not angry about this, you should be as it is eroding our country from the inside and from the youngest members (our future leaders)! Parents are supposed to protect their children, not offer them up for slaughter. There are a few lose ends that need tying with respect to this thread of dialogue. Most importantly, there is no such thing as ‘mental illness.’ What there is (that psychiatrists and psychologists label as mental illenss) are numerous manifestations of unwanted or misunderstood behaviors-the root causes of which are ‘professionally’ (and I use that term loosely) medicated under the various labels of mental illness. “Therapy” is only, and I stress the word ONLY, truly conducted when physchiatrists and/or psychologists explore the CAUSES of those unwanted or misunderstood behaviors (not mask them with medications). The unwanted and/or misunderstood behaviors that are being medically masked are life-long traumas such as family secrets (molestation perhaps), abuse (parent to child, sibling to sibling, etc.) and collusions (let’s not tell anyone just how messed up we are and maybe no one will figure it out), just to name a few. Of course, psychiatrists and psychologists are both guilty of making more and more and more money by billing insurance companies (or Medicaid) as they quickly cycle patients in and out of their offices with a swift diagnosis of mental illness and an RX for a dangerously potent life-altering chemical lobotomy. It takes TIME to explore the underlying causes of trauma. There is no money to be made with spending untold hours of TIME with a patient to discover and understand the real causes underlying his/her traumas. It is much more efficient, for the so-called professional, to get the patient in, slap a label on him/her, give them an RX, usher them out the door and cycle in the next victim for the same quick treatment. What is so blatantly egregious is that Americans have allowed themselves to be so misled for so long by so many so-called ‘professionals.’ If you are not angry about this, you should be as it is eroding our country from the inside and from the youngest members (our future leaders)! Parents are supposed to protect their children, not offer them up for slaughter.

]]> By: Sunita http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-14623 Sunita Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:52:47 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-14623 America has become a dangerous country for her own citizens namely our children. Thanks for speaking up and sounding the alarm though I suspect it is going to get worse. I and my children almost became victims of psychiatric-pimps and the "drug-lords". America has become a dangerous country for her own citizens namely our children. Thanks for speaking up and sounding the alarm though I suspect it is going to get worse. I and my children almost became victims of psychiatric-pimps and the “drug-lords”.

]]> By: Tracy Alexis http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-14563 Tracy Alexis Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:56:27 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-14563 Loretta: Thank you for the Nemeroff and Goodwin info. Yes, the implicit meaning of my post is that the depth and breadth of this so called problem is unfathomable by the public at large. Kids and adults are dying daily from taking these atypical antipsychotic medications/cocktails. Blatantly, Big Pharma is behind it...it has so much to gain monetarily and so little to lose - especially with no real oversight from FDA. Chemical lobotomy anyone??? Prescribers can and will serve one up a nice chemical cocktail for you if you just tell them you are depressed...and many, like Nemeroff and Goodwin, will gain kick-backs from the pharmaceutical companies for the Rx, and then be asked to speak/present at professional conferences. Wake Up America...You say you want a different and better economy...get out of your chemically induced coma and see it for what it is! If Congress had all of the profits from big pharmaceutical companies, we would NOT have a national deficit! Ah, but I mix universes of discourse (only because they ARE inextricably intertwined). Loretta:

Thank you for the Nemeroff and Goodwin info. Yes, the implicit meaning of my post is that the depth and breadth of this so called problem is unfathomable by the public at large. Kids and adults are dying daily from taking these atypical antipsychotic medications/cocktails. Blatantly, Big Pharma is behind it…it has so much to gain monetarily and so little to lose – especially with no real oversight from FDA. Chemical lobotomy anyone??? Prescribers can and will serve one up a nice chemical cocktail for you if you just tell them you are depressed…and many, like Nemeroff and Goodwin, will gain kick-backs from the pharmaceutical companies for the Rx, and then be asked to speak/present at professional conferences. Wake Up America…You say you want a different and better economy…get out of your chemically induced coma and see it for what it is! If Congress had all of the profits from big pharmaceutical companies, we would NOT have a national deficit! Ah, but I mix universes of discourse (only because they ARE inextricably intertwined).

]]> By: Loretta http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-14539 Loretta Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:21:24 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-14539 Tracey Alexis, The war against children that you're describing, in which children are viciously attacked with psychiatric druggings, is even worse than you thought. You're right to mention the gross injustices against foster children. Yet, other children are being systematically destroyed through psychiatric druggings. The drug companies have a lot to do with it. They're using children as a profit base. Have you heard about the following two wretches: "Charles Nemeroff" or "Frederick K. Goodwin"? You can web-search those two names. Both of these guys were wealthy and powerful psychiatrists who accepted money from the drug companies for representing the interests of the drug companies under the guise of "science". Goodwin is especially memorable because, while his NPR radio show was still on the air, he explicitly advocated the psychiatric drugging of children, claiming that the drugs were somehow "good" for the children's growing young brains, and all the while he was accepting money from the drug companies. Goodwin had accumulated more than a million dollars of money from several or many drug companies, and he had advocated the use of their products on his show "The Infinite Mind" -- by the time he was caught and the very embarrassed NPR took his show off of the air. Complete-phrase web searches: "Charles Nemeroff" and "Frederick K. Goodwin". There are probably many others who pretend to be in the healing arts, but are actually drug-pimps just like Nemeroff and Goodwin (only difference that those two got caught). Tracey Alexis,

The war against children that you’re describing, in which children are viciously attacked with psychiatric druggings, is even worse than you thought.

You’re right to mention the gross injustices against foster children. Yet, other children are being systematically destroyed through psychiatric druggings.

The drug companies have a lot to do with it. They’re using children as a profit base.

Have you heard about the following two wretches: “Charles Nemeroff” or “Frederick K. Goodwin”? You can web-search those two names. Both of these guys were wealthy and powerful psychiatrists who accepted money from the drug companies for representing the interests of the drug companies under the guise of “science”. Goodwin is especially memorable because, while his NPR radio show was still on the air, he explicitly advocated the psychiatric drugging of children, claiming that the drugs were somehow “good” for the children’s growing young brains, and all the while he was accepting money from the drug companies.

Goodwin had accumulated more than a million dollars of money from several or many drug companies, and he had advocated the use of their products on his show “The Infinite Mind” — by the time he was caught and the very embarrassed NPR took his show off of the air.

Complete-phrase web searches: “Charles Nemeroff” and “Frederick K. Goodwin”.

There are probably many others who pretend to be in the healing arts, but are actually drug-pimps just like Nemeroff and Goodwin (only difference that those two got caught).

]]> By: Tracy Alexis http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-therapeutic-state/the-shame-of-medicine-the-depravity-of-psychiatry/comment-page-1/#comment-14487 Tracy Alexis Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:44:16 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=9729#comment-14487 Just like the aforementioned untried \"criminals,\" one of the last \"captive\" populations for forced medicalizations is America\'s foster children (and children whose parents think they suffer from ADHD, ADD, etc. and take them to doctors for meds to calm their unwanted or misunderstood behaviors)! Just look at the current scandal in Broward County, Florida (and elsewhere). At least Floridians have the decency to air their dirty laundry so the rest of us become more educated (through diligent news reporters\' efforts at the Miami Herald). How many other states are still cloaking their scandals (and unwanted or misunderstood child and adult behaviors) in secrecy and darkness with the public at large completely unaware?! Thank you Dr. Szasz for your very cogent, and continued, truthfulness! I know you have know that being right is rarely popular. Just like the aforementioned untried \"criminals,\" one of the last \"captive\" populations for forced medicalizations is America\’s foster children (and children whose parents think they suffer from ADHD, ADD, etc. and take them to doctors for meds to calm their unwanted or misunderstood behaviors)! Just look at the current scandal in Broward County, Florida (and elsewhere). At least Floridians have the decency to air their dirty laundry so the rest of us become more educated (through diligent news reporters\’ efforts at the Miami Herald). How many other states are still cloaking their scandals (and unwanted or misunderstood child and adult behaviors) in secrecy and darkness with the public at large completely unaware?! Thank you Dr. Szasz for your very cogent, and continued, truthfulness! I know you have know that being right is rarely popular.

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