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		<title>By: Dante the Bard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante the Bard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people serious? Amurrica is a Socialist Nation? As if! G_d(dess), are all of you people drunk off the kool-aid of Lew Rockwell and Alec Jones? Ugh...

Personally, I&#039;m not even sure I understand Szasz point here. I mean, on the one hand, his criticism seems aimed at both Employer-provided Health Insurance and the Health Insurance Providers (by the way, this would exclude Medicare and similar, because Medicare is a program designed to off-set the costs of normal Health Insurance; aka cost-shifting the cost-shifting already occuring). But, on the other hand, the bulk of the criticism is lost in the fact that, although everyone can probably agree on responsibility, it doesn&#039;t actually explain what Szasz&#039; problem with the most capitalistic enterprise in the US is. After all, is it not a good thing that Insurance corporations can parasitically feed off of non-Insurance corporations, via the Employer-Provided Insurance model? Is it not a good thing that Insurance corporations can provide a monopolistic service of one-size fits all (just as Wal-Mart does when it comes to eliminating any possibility of genuine competition via their reliance on less than savory overseas manufacturing and labour)? 

Even if Employers didn&#039;t have to provide health insurance, how would that change the issue of &quot;ever-increasing premiums&quot;? 

Personally, I would like to see Szasz read &quot;Healing of America&quot; by T.R. Reid (as well as the people who already commented here), because I suspect there is more to this criticism than meets the eye (especially since Obamacare is as capitalistic as one can get, given that it requires mandatory For-Profit Health Insurance, much like we&#039;re all required For-Profit Car Insurance if we choose to drive).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people serious? Amurrica is a Socialist Nation? As if! G_d(dess), are all of you people drunk off the kool-aid of Lew Rockwell and Alec Jones? Ugh&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not even sure I understand Szasz point here. I mean, on the one hand, his criticism seems aimed at both Employer-provided Health Insurance and the Health Insurance Providers (by the way, this would exclude Medicare and similar, because Medicare is a program designed to off-set the costs of normal Health Insurance; aka cost-shifting the cost-shifting already occuring). But, on the other hand, the bulk of the criticism is lost in the fact that, although everyone can probably agree on responsibility, it doesn&#8217;t actually explain what Szasz&#8217; problem with the most capitalistic enterprise in the US is. After all, is it not a good thing that Insurance corporations can parasitically feed off of non-Insurance corporations, via the Employer-Provided Insurance model? Is it not a good thing that Insurance corporations can provide a monopolistic service of one-size fits all (just as Wal-Mart does when it comes to eliminating any possibility of genuine competition via their reliance on less than savory overseas manufacturing and labour)? </p>
<p>Even if Employers didn&#8217;t have to provide health insurance, how would that change the issue of &#8220;ever-increasing premiums&#8221;? </p>
<p>Personally, I would like to see Szasz read &#8220;Healing of America&#8221; by T.R. Reid (as well as the people who already commented here), because I suspect there is more to this criticism than meets the eye (especially since Obamacare is as capitalistic as one can get, given that it requires mandatory For-Profit Health Insurance, much like we&#8217;re all required For-Profit Car Insurance if we choose to drive).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform

Here is more info on the Essex case.
-Tom</description>
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<p>Here is more info on the Essex case.<br />
-Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Donald M. Coder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald M. Coder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America is a socialist nation. Everything must be equal, redistributed, no one can have something someone else does not have. The Chinese are laughing as they grow in wealth and freedom and America declines and whines for more controls. Don&#039;t fight it. We have arrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America is a socialist nation. Everything must be equal, redistributed, no one can have something someone else does not have. The Chinese are laughing as they grow in wealth and freedom and America declines and whines for more controls. Don&#8217;t fight it. We have arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: Frans Verloop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frans Verloop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 14:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The english language has a word to describe this;  &quot;shanghai&quot;  which means to get somebody to join something by fraude or force.  All americans are now shanghaid into joining some or other health &quot;insurance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The english language has a word to describe this;  &#8220;shanghai&#8221;  which means to get somebody to join something by fraude or force.  All americans are now shanghaid into joining some or other health &#8220;insurance</p>
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		<title>By: Sick and Tired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sick and Tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone heard about the legal challenge to mandatory health insurance in Massachusetts that was filed in Essex Superior Court contesting the fine imposed for non-compliance with the individual mandate?  If you haven&#039;t then you&#039;re not alone. The case and the subsequent dismissal of the case was NOT covered in the media anywhere in the state.  The appeals to the Massachusetts Supreme Court and the Massachusetts Appeal Court, which were also summarily dismissed, were also not covered by the press.  It wasn&#039;t until NPR&#039;s Commonhealth did a report on the case that I learned about it.  I&#039;m not paranoid and I&#039;m certainly no believer in conspiracies, but the media in Massachusetts, the court system, and the attorney general&#039;s office are all working together. There is no interest in hearing any dissent on the issue.  Look at the actual coverage of the mandate and you will find very little in the way of opinions by those who oppose it for whatever reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone heard about the legal challenge to mandatory health insurance in Massachusetts that was filed in Essex Superior Court contesting the fine imposed for non-compliance with the individual mandate?  If you haven&#8217;t then you&#8217;re not alone. The case and the subsequent dismissal of the case was NOT covered in the media anywhere in the state.  The appeals to the Massachusetts Supreme Court and the Massachusetts Appeal Court, which were also summarily dismissed, were also not covered by the press.  It wasn&#8217;t until NPR&#8217;s Commonhealth did a report on the case that I learned about it.  I&#8217;m not paranoid and I&#8217;m certainly no believer in conspiracies, but the media in Massachusetts, the court system, and the attorney general&#8217;s office are all working together. There is no interest in hearing any dissent on the issue.  Look at the actual coverage of the mandate and you will find very little in the way of opinions by those who oppose it for whatever reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: The myth of health insurance&#160;&#124;&#160;LDS Freemen</title>
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		<dc:creator>The myth of health insurance&#160;&#124;&#160;LDS Freemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to explain the myth that is health insurance, is Thomas Szasz writing for the May 2003 issue of The Freeman: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kelli allred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelli allred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How encouraging it is to read the voice of reason coming from young voters (under40). You havenot lost the vision that our elected officials assume to be a thing of the past. You joint comments are important. Join me and other \&quot;boomers\&quot; in reminding Washington that we areNOT STUPID &amp; we will not be led or dragged into socialized healthcare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How encouraging it is to read the voice of reason coming from young voters (under40). You havenot lost the vision that our elected officials assume to be a thing of the past. You joint comments are important. Join me and other \&quot;boomers\&quot; in reminding Washington that we areNOT STUPID &amp; we will not be led or dragged into socialized healthcare.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Shephard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Shephard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the article to be quite enlightening. I also felt the comments were straight forward and hit the nail on the head. One in particular hit home! It now appears that the IRS is supplying Medicare with our tax return information and the government is using our tax returns to determine what we should or should not pay! I just got my letter today. My concern is that the data supplied by the IRS was for 2007 when both myself and my wife were working. We are both retired and make only half of what we made in 2007, yet the government is basing their calculations on the 2007 tax return! This means I have to pay again. This system is not fair and I hope to challenge it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the article to be quite enlightening. I also felt the comments were straight forward and hit the nail on the head. One in particular hit home! It now appears that the IRS is supplying Medicare with our tax return information and the government is using our tax returns to determine what we should or should not pay! I just got my letter today. My concern is that the data supplied by the IRS was for 2007 when both myself and my wife were working. We are both retired and make only half of what we made in 2007, yet the government is basing their calculations on the 2007 tax return! This means I have to pay again. This system is not fair and I hope to challenge it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Madison Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Madison Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could agree with this in regard to Obamacare but I pay for my health insurance.  It is a service.  If Cigna and Kaiser do not like providing this service they are a business and they can get out of the market any time they like.

Mr. Szasz is correct when he says, \&quot;What we choose to call “health insurance” is, in fact, a system of cost-shifting masquerading as a system of insurance.\&quot;

That is the whole purpose of insurance.  A large number of people pay into it so that a few people can capitalize on it when it is needed.  

It is in the best interest of an insurance company to cover basic treatment so people will go to the doctor before an illness becomes critical.  If someone avoids the doctor because he does not want to pay $250.00 and ends up in the ER, hospital, or surgery the company will pay out FAR more money in the long run.  Better to treat a cut before it becomes infected with stiches, soap, and a bandage than to pay for a suit of antibiotics, surgery, and amputation later.  Preventative maintenance may not be covered by homeowner\&#039;s insurance but so give discounts to premiums if you have security installed or annual termite inspections.  

Mr. Szasz is wrong when he says, \&quot;We treat a public, statist political system of health care as if it were a system of private health insurance purchased for the purpose of obtaining private medical care.\&quot;

As long as we are not talking about Nationalized Health Care I fail to see how \&quot;Statist\&quot; applies unless he\&#039;s talking about Medicare.  It certainly doesn\&#039;t apply to Cigna and Kaiser.  If they weren\&#039;t making scads of money they wouldn\&#039;t be offering the services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could agree with this in regard to Obamacare but I pay for my health insurance.  It is a service.  If Cigna and Kaiser do not like providing this service they are a business and they can get out of the market any time they like.</p>
<p>Mr. Szasz is correct when he says, \&quot;What we choose to call “health insurance” is, in fact, a system of cost-shifting masquerading as a system of insurance.\&quot;</p>
<p>That is the whole purpose of insurance.  A large number of people pay into it so that a few people can capitalize on it when it is needed.  </p>
<p>It is in the best interest of an insurance company to cover basic treatment so people will go to the doctor before an illness becomes critical.  If someone avoids the doctor because he does not want to pay $250.00 and ends up in the ER, hospital, or surgery the company will pay out FAR more money in the long run.  Better to treat a cut before it becomes infected with stiches, soap, and a bandage than to pay for a suit of antibiotics, surgery, and amputation later.  Preventative maintenance may not be covered by homeowner\&#8217;s insurance but so give discounts to premiums if you have security installed or annual termite inspections.  </p>
<p>Mr. Szasz is wrong when he says, \&quot;We treat a public, statist political system of health care as if it were a system of private health insurance purchased for the purpose of obtaining private medical care.\&quot;</p>
<p>As long as we are not talking about Nationalized Health Care I fail to see how \&quot;Statist\&quot; applies unless he\&#8217;s talking about Medicare.  It certainly doesn\&#8217;t apply to Cigna and Kaiser.  If they weren\&#8217;t making scads of money they wouldn\&#8217;t be offering the services.</p>
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		<title>By: Austinaustrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austinaustrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tooearly--one should not confuse correlation with causality. Otherwise we might conclude that changing temperatures cause the use of SUVs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tooearly&#8211;one should not confuse correlation with causality. Otherwise we might conclude that changing temperatures cause the use of SUVs.</p>
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