Comments on: The Progressive Income Tax http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/ Ideas on Liberty Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:14:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Real Hope for a Change | Tea Party Tribune - Tea Party & Political News http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-46241 Real Hope for a Change | Tea Party Tribune - Tea Party & Political News Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:10:34 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-46241 [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...] [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...]

]]> By: Real Hope for a Change http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-46239 Real Hope for a Change Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:51:58 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-46239 [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...] [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...]

]]> By: Real Hope for a Change | The Lonely Conservative http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-46211 Real Hope for a Change | The Lonely Conservative Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:13:18 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-46211 [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...] [...] that someday the rate might reach an unbelievable 50% the speaker was laughed to scorn. Yet, by 1961 the top rate had climbed to 91% with the 50% rate beginning at the $16,000 level. These rates were [...]

]]> By: Communities & Consequences - Page 5 - City-Data Forum http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-45111 Communities & Consequences - Page 5 - City-Data Forum Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:30:59 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-45111 [...] everybody is at the mercy of the politicos, who get first whack at the resources of the state. The Progressive Income Tax | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty The only true "FAIR" way to tax a populace is require every single man, woman, and child [...] [...] everybody is at the mercy of the politicos, who get first whack at the resources of the state. The Progressive Income Tax | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty The only true "FAIR" way to tax a populace is require every single man, woman, and child [...]

]]> By: Drik http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-36478 Drik Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:29:37 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-36478 "Wages" are not "income". When the 16th Amendment was passed, the subtlties of the vocabulary were taught and discussed in schools, even in government schools. Now it has been warped so that property is taxed as an also-ran and the bulk of the federal government's takings are from wages. Subsidize what you would have more of. Tax that which you would have less of. Do we really want the "rich" to be revolting? If govenment depends on the wages of the rich to survive, then what happens when the rich do the Atlas shrugged thing? Think they can't move? Think they can't take a year or two off? They can. The progressive tax means that the rich stay rich and the middle class stays middle or poor. But the rich just stay rich somewhere else. “Wages” are not “income”. When the 16th Amendment was passed, the subtlties of the vocabulary were taught and discussed in schools, even in government schools. Now it has been warped so that property is taxed as an also-ran and the bulk of the federal government’s takings are from wages.

Subsidize what you would have more of. Tax that which you would have less of. Do we really want the “rich” to be revolting? If govenment depends on the wages of the rich to survive, then what happens when the rich do the Atlas shrugged thing?
Think they can’t move?
Think they can’t take a year or two off?
They can.

The progressive tax means that the rich stay rich and the middle class stays middle or poor. But the rich just stay rich somewhere else.

]]> By: Capt. A. http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-29399 Capt. A. Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:34:55 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-29399 An interesting article... Consider this: Starting with the American government-controlled school system, its proselytizing propaganda and the accompanying tribal inculcation (cultural) from birth to death ... which are greatly responsible for the loss of individual freedom, liberty, privacy (both financial and personal), as well as the severe curtailment of private property rights.... (Actually, they never really existed in America in the first place! You drank the Kool Aid if you believe otherwise.) And that’s just the beginning! Focus on the moral turpitude of taxation in and of its heinous nature. Rational, logical and critical thinking will lead you to only one conclusion ... and only one! The lacuna in the brain between freedom and liberty and “theft and plundering etc.,” and the accepted theory of taxation (existence of civilizations; by Oliver Wendell Holmes, whose crass comment was uttered in 1927), it is no longer recognized by the masses of prisoners that they are “mentally feeble tax slaves, and nothing more to the elite.” The States’ elite (Structured, institutionalized hierarchy) will fight tooth and nail to prohibit the masses from shucking the tax yoke, (Death if necessary) as well as instigating the punishing lash, also necessary to enforce this unjustified turpitude of plundering. You can bet your life on it!! Again, you are a tax slave ... nothing more and nothing less. Now, you have another sip of that Kool Aid! What a way to live the only life you will ever have. There is only ONE way to capture your individual freedom, liberty and privacy. LEAVE the country ... and renounce your citizenship. There is NO other way ... period. If you believe otherwise, you are in deep denial, suffering from the delusions that government is working in your best interest! If so, you certainly deserve exactly what you get ... and brother, you will get it—good and hard to paraphrase Mencken. C’est la guerre. Capt. A. Principaute de Monaco GMT +2:00 CET "The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty—and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." ~ H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun, Feb. 12, 1923 An interesting article… Consider this:

Starting with the American government-controlled school system, its proselytizing propaganda and the accompanying tribal inculcation (cultural) from birth to death … which are greatly responsible for the loss of individual freedom, liberty, privacy (both financial and personal), as well as the severe curtailment of private property rights…. (Actually, they never really existed in America in the first place! You drank the Kool Aid if you believe otherwise.) And that’s just the beginning! Focus on the moral turpitude of taxation in and of its heinous nature. Rational, logical and critical thinking will lead you to only one conclusion … and only one!

The lacuna in the brain between freedom and liberty and “theft and plundering etc.,” and the accepted theory of taxation (existence of civilizations; by Oliver Wendell Holmes, whose crass comment was uttered in 1927), it is no longer recognized by the masses of prisoners that they are “mentally feeble tax slaves, and nothing more to the elite.” The States’ elite (Structured, institutionalized hierarchy) will fight tooth and nail to prohibit the masses from shucking the tax yoke, (Death if necessary) as well as instigating the punishing lash, also necessary to enforce this unjustified turpitude of plundering. You can bet your life on it!! Again, you are a tax slave … nothing more and nothing less. Now, you have another sip of that Kool Aid! What a way to live the only life you will ever have.

There is only ONE way to capture your individual freedom, liberty and privacy. LEAVE the country … and renounce your citizenship. There is NO other way … period. If you believe otherwise, you are in deep denial, suffering from the delusions that government is working in your best interest! If so, you certainly deserve exactly what you get … and brother, you will get it—good and hard to paraphrase Mencken. C’est la guerre.

Capt. A.
Principaute de Monaco
GMT +2:00 CET

“The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty—and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.” ~ H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun, Feb. 12, 1923

]]> By: TFaris http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-3580 TFaris Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:05:31 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-3580 It seems to me that the progressive income tax is the keystone to the plans in Washington to transfer ever greater amounts of power from the people. Can someone provide advice on the following: The Fifth Amendment's taking clause 'i.e. that private property cannot be taken for public use with just compensation.' would seem to be in conflict with a progressive income tax. While we all receive some benefit from the federal government, the top 25% to 50% of income earners receive less in 'compensation' from the federal government in the form of services etc than the bottom 50%. My opinion is that this limits the government's power to tax to a fixed rate across the entire population. If our politicians are forced to levy taxes across the entire population, they will not be able to continue their profligate ways. Can this issue be raised in court to protest/repeal the progressive income tax? It seems to me that the progressive income tax is the keystone to the plans in Washington to transfer ever greater amounts of power from the people. Can someone provide advice on the following: The Fifth Amendment’s taking clause ‘i.e. that private property cannot be taken for public use with just compensation.’ would seem to be in conflict with a progressive income tax. While we all receive some benefit from the federal government, the top 25% to 50% of income earners receive less in ‘compensation’ from the federal government in the form of services etc than the bottom 50%. My opinion is that this limits the government’s power to tax to a fixed rate across the entire population. If our politicians are forced to levy taxes across the entire population, they will not be able to continue their profligate ways.

Can this issue be raised in court to protest/repeal the progressive income tax?

]]> By: Bryan Rubingh http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-progressive-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-2486 Bryan Rubingh Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:12:23 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-progressive-income-tax/#comment-2486 So when will the American people DEMAND a constitutional amendment from our government that will require the people to approve (through a super-majority of the electoral college) ANY tax increase? And when will the American people DEMAND a similar amendment permitting their government to borrow money? So when will the American people DEMAND a constitutional amendment from our government that will require the people to approve (through a super-majority of the electoral college) ANY tax increase? And when will the American people DEMAND a similar amendment permitting their government to borrow money?

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