Comments on: The More College Graduates the Better? http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/ Ideas on Liberty Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:46:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: new england patriots http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-56431 new england patriots Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:24:42 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-56431 Well done for publishing about this topic. There is not enough content published about this (not really particularly great anyway). It is pleasing to determine this receiving a little bit much more protection. Cheers! Well done for publishing about this topic. There is not enough content published about this (not really particularly great anyway). It is pleasing to determine this receiving a little bit much more protection. Cheers!

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]]> By: Do We Really Need More College Graduates? 20 Must-Read Analyses | The Knowledge Maven http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-52555 Do We Really Need More College Graduates? 20 Must-Read Analyses | The Knowledge Maven Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:49:34 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-52555 [...] finally, in a column called “It Just Ain’t So,” George Leef debates “The More College Graduates the Better?” He doesn’t think [...] [...] finally, in a column called “It Just Ain’t So,” George Leef debates “The More College Graduates the Better?” He doesn’t think [...]

]]> By: William King http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-47418 William King Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:28:10 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-47418 @David Beadles~ Spot on. This is a *big* problem right now. Trust me. "That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly. It is dearness only which gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods." ~Thomas Paine. Simply, if college degrees are pushed excessively [however that is defined] the value of those degrees will decrease, because everyone has them and they are easy to get. Now there is some intrisic value in a college degree as proof that the bearer has basic abilities, but if everyone has these abilities, and there is not enough jobs for them, not only will people not be able to find "college level" jobs, there will be a boom and bust cycle in the college degree area. I have no idea how that will look, but that will happen. That is what happened with the recent housing bust. Overconsumption of the housing market lead to misguided investment in that market. When reality set in, the bust happenend. Now we are trying to recover. What will happen if the college degree market busts? What *long term* effects will that have on the economy? I will admit that I am going to college right now, because I am hopeing to get a law or business degree. There are a lot of people in college right now hoping to be able to be somewhat more "higherable" in the job market. @David Beadles~ Spot on. This is a *big* problem right now. Trust me.

“That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly. It is dearness only which gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods.” ~Thomas Paine.

Simply, if college degrees are pushed excessively [however that is defined] the value of those degrees will decrease, because everyone has them and they are easy to get. Now there is some intrisic value in a college degree as proof that the bearer has basic abilities, but if everyone has these abilities, and there is not enough jobs for them, not only will people not be able to find “college level” jobs, there will be a boom and bust cycle in the college degree area. I have no idea how that will look, but that will happen. That is what happened with the recent housing bust. Overconsumption of the housing market lead to misguided investment in that market. When reality set in, the bust happenend. Now we are trying to recover. What will happen if the college degree market busts? What *long term* effects will that have on the economy?
I will admit that I am going to college right now, because I am hopeing to get a law or business degree. There are a lot of people in college right now hoping to be able to be somewhat more “higherable” in the job market.

]]> By: David Beadles http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-47412 David Beadles Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:16:02 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-47412 In light of the dismal performance of so many of our secondary schools, small wonder that many businesses want college graduates. Perhaps they assume that those who continued on in their education have learned at least some of the skills that were at one time associated with high school graduates. Considering how colleges and universities have become the domain of the ultra-left and progressives (at least in the humanities and liberal arts area), an employer might question what type of college educated employee he gets -at least as far as attitude and outlook. Think Wall street occupier In light of the dismal performance of so many of our secondary schools, small wonder that many businesses want college graduates. Perhaps they assume that those who continued on in their education have learned at least some of the skills that were at one time associated with high school graduates.
Considering how colleges and universities have become the domain of the ultra-left and progressives (at least in the humanities and liberal arts area), an employer might question what type of college educated employee he gets -at least as far as attitude and outlook.
Think Wall street occupier

]]> By: Kalie http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-45554 Kalie Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:44:47 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-45554 Phenomenal breakdown of the topic, you sholud write for me too! Phenomenal breakdown of the topic, you sholud write for me too!

]]> By: The More College Graduates the Better? | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty « Gregory Reese Research http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-45550 The More College Graduates the Better? | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty « Gregory Reese Research Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:56:35 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-45550 [...] via The More College Graduates the Better? | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty. [...] [...] via The More College Graduates the Better? | The Freeman | Ideas On Liberty. [...]

]]> By: Julia http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-44979 Julia Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:39:04 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-44979 There can be no doubt that the degree requirement for most jobs is used to screen applicants. It is an arbitrary delineator to reduce the number of potential applicants to a more manageable number. Do you really need a college degree to be a secretary (administrative assistant)? How about a warehouse worker? As long as the college degree is used in an arbitrary manner to filter job applicants for these kinds of jobs, the push to obtain these degrees (even perfunctorily), will continue There can be no doubt that the degree requirement for most jobs is used to screen applicants. It is an arbitrary delineator to reduce the number of potential applicants to a more manageable number. Do you really need a college degree to be a secretary (administrative assistant)? How about a warehouse worker? As long as the college degree is used in an arbitrary manner to filter job applicants for these kinds of jobs, the push to obtain these degrees (even perfunctorily), will continue

]]> By: jill http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-35569 jill Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:01:35 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-35569 I would agree with the above article. I myself have seen the requirement in a job ad for a 2 year college degree in Turf Management to get a summer job cutting grass. Doesn't this seem wrong to anybody else? The other problem with using college as a standardized format for education (good part is immediately obvious- everyone is trained exactly the same) is that when being trained by someone while working (ie apprenticeships), all of the knowledge that isn't formalized - is not passed on. We have a huge brain drain happening - all those who retire without training a successor. Much reinventing of the wheel happens and data mining can only reconstruct a certain amount. Not the contacts, not the shortcuts, not the feel/look of something when it's right and often not even where data may be found. I would agree with the above article. I myself have seen the requirement in a job ad for a 2 year college degree in Turf Management to get a summer job cutting grass. Doesn’t this seem wrong to anybody else?
The other problem with using college as a standardized format for education (good part is immediately obvious- everyone is trained exactly the same) is that when being trained by someone while working (ie apprenticeships), all of the knowledge that isn’t formalized – is not passed on. We have a huge brain drain happening – all those who retire without training a successor. Much reinventing of the wheel happens and data mining can only reconstruct a certain amount. Not the contacts, not the shortcuts, not the feel/look of something when it’s right and often not even where data may be found.

]]> By: BAP http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-35531 BAP Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:11:28 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-more-college-graduates-the-better-it-just-aint-so/#comment-35531 I never understood the argument that the economic rewards of a college education and wisdom gained should be weighed equally. The cost of a university education is horrendous. I’m glad that some people have $20,000+ extra a year to spend on an education. The rest of us have to worry about the financial payoff of a degree because of the debt incurred during the process. Every time you tell a college graduate that the tens of thousands of dollars in capitalized interest they spent was worth the wisdom they gained, you might as well punch them in the gut. I never understood the argument that the economic rewards of a college education and wisdom gained should be weighed equally. The cost of a university education is horrendous. I’m glad that some people have $20,000+ extra a year to spend on an education. The rest of us have to worry about the financial payoff of a degree because of the debt incurred during the process. Every time you tell a college graduate that the tens of thousands of dollars in capitalized interest they spent was worth the wisdom they gained, you might as well punch them in the gut.

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