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]]> By: DeeLegit http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-benefits-of-immigration/comment-page-2/#comment-52011 DeeLegit Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:55:25 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-benefits-of-immigration/#comment-52011 James Madison Fan is there any way I can cite you for my research paper? James Madison Fan is there any way I can cite you for my research paper?

]]> By: Isai Calderon http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-benefits-of-immigration/comment-page-2/#comment-45781 Isai Calderon Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:23:46 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-benefits-of-immigration/#comment-45781 Wonderful Mr Bodreaux! EXACTLY! Illegal or legal is the same, both useful.. Prpbablu illegal better.. only crooks can fill up paper work to come and bomb World Trade Center! Its like welfare and food stamps; only pencil pusher receive them, really needy people cannot complete requirements!!! For some reason the "Right" and the "Tea Party" has been polluted with this issue, which does not belong to them of opposing immigrants.... we all were one time or another! Many votes are lost to this issue which they place top on their list! Jons in the Midwest were lost because of Union and overpriced labor, not o Mexicans! Many high school and Summer jobs have been lost to minimum wage laws. The non left groups should be a little better educated, since that, they argue is their position.., being principled rather than pleasing special interests, yet, at this issue they sound so much like Berkley economic 101 students! Reagan turned Carter's anti immigrant policies around.. He wondered... if those coming to the US loved to be in a foreign country with a foreign language where they were despised??? And he well conlcuded that it was the terrible Socialist situation in Latin America that drove them to the US. Instead of building tall Jimmy Carter walls, he turned his sight to changing Latin America and taking the government off the Latino folks.., and it worked! At this moment Latin America is doing better econimically than the US and Europe because of economic policies imposed by him on Latin American States! Good for FEE, good for us, good for the world, Bodreaux has simply stated what anyone proud of understanding should assimilate and put to practice. Wonderful Mr Bodreaux! EXACTLY! Illegal or legal is the same, both useful.. Prpbablu illegal better.. only crooks can fill up paper work to come and bomb World Trade Center! Its like welfare and food stamps; only pencil pusher receive them, really needy people cannot complete requirements!!!
For some reason the “Right” and the “Tea Party” has been polluted with this issue, which does not belong to them of opposing immigrants…. we all were one time or another! Many votes are lost to this issue which they place top on their list! Jons in the Midwest were lost because of Union and overpriced labor, not o Mexicans! Many high school and Summer jobs have been lost to minimum wage laws. The non left groups should be a little better educated, since that, they argue is their position.., being principled rather than pleasing special interests, yet, at this issue they sound so much like Berkley economic 101 students! Reagan turned Carter’s anti immigrant policies around.. He wondered… if those coming to the US loved to be in a foreign country with a foreign language where they were despised??? And he well conlcuded that it was the terrible Socialist situation in Latin America that drove them to the US. Instead of building tall Jimmy Carter walls, he turned his sight to changing Latin America and taking the government off the Latino folks.., and it worked! At this moment Latin America is doing better econimically than the US and Europe because of economic policies imposed by him on Latin American States!
Good for FEE, good for us, good for the world, Bodreaux has simply stated what anyone proud of understanding should assimilate and put to practice.

]]> By: Rick Dutkiewicz http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-benefits-of-immigration/comment-page-2/#comment-45711 Rick Dutkiewicz Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:11:19 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-benefits-of-immigration/#comment-45711 Don, since you said "only one correspondent fully shared my support for eliminating all immigration restrictions." Make that two, at least. I'm a free-market advocate, and I support eliminating all immigration restrictions. For what it's worth, I say "Hear, hear!" The people who argue for some distinction between "legal" and "illegal" immigration are often the same people who argue to continue the war on drugs, because "drugs are bad because drugs are illegal, drugs are illegal because they're bad". Don, since you said “only one correspondent fully shared my support for eliminating all immigration restrictions.”
Make that two, at least.

I’m a free-market advocate, and I support eliminating all immigration restrictions.
For what it’s worth, I say “Hear, hear!”

The people who argue for some distinction between “legal” and “illegal” immigration are often the same people who argue to continue the war on drugs, because “drugs are bad because drugs are illegal, drugs are illegal because they’re bad”.

]]> By: Joe Schmoe http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-benefits-of-immigration/comment-page-2/#comment-45683 Joe Schmoe Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:18:54 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-benefits-of-immigration/#comment-45683 RE: James Madison Fan Note that the purpose of this article was to dispel myths that working immigrants "steal jobs" and thus are economically unhealthy. You make several references to "illegal immigrants" but fail to take into consideration the following line from the original article: "Government should not redistribute income to immigrants, but neither should government prevent immigration." Your main criticism seems to be that illegal immigrants use schooling, health care, and other government-granted privileges but don't pay taxes due to their illegal status. I'm sure you know what The Freeman's position on government-funded services is by the year 2011. Constitutionally, at the bare minimum, the taxes are directly associated with the service, e.g. Bus Fares or Mail Stamps should cover the full cost of operating buses and mail. Re: Jon Ogden "The argument that America can accept unlimited immigration is simply an assurance that it is possible to put ten pounds of manure in a five pound bag." The argument is that government is not necessary to regulate immigration, not that unlimited immigration is feasible. The flaw in your thinking comes from the fact that you associate a lack of government regulation with the existence of unlimited immigration. There's only so much land in America, and the immigrants will have to buy it or rent it to immigrate. Replace land with pretty much anything else and you can see that there are very real barriers to entry here. The question is, do the benefits of a modern economy and government payouts outweigh the costs and barriers to entry? At this point, it probably does, but we can only blame the government for socializing massive parts of the economy. Realistically, we welcome both the skilled worker and the unskilled worker, as each new worker makes products on the net cheaper; when the payouts of government exceed the economic activity that the worker generates, then criticisms can be made. But that's not really a fault of immigration but of government policy. RE: James Madison Fan

Note that the purpose of this article was to dispel myths that working immigrants “steal jobs” and thus are economically unhealthy.

You make several references to “illegal immigrants” but fail to take into consideration the following line from the original article:

“Government should not redistribute income to immigrants, but neither should government prevent immigration.”

Your main criticism seems to be that illegal immigrants use schooling, health care, and other government-granted privileges but don’t pay taxes due to their illegal status. I’m sure you know what The Freeman’s position on government-funded services is by the year 2011.

Constitutionally, at the bare minimum, the taxes are directly associated with the service, e.g. Bus Fares or Mail Stamps should cover the full cost of operating buses and mail.

Re: Jon Ogden

“The argument that America can accept unlimited immigration is simply an assurance that it is possible to put ten pounds of manure in a five pound bag.”

The argument is that government is not necessary to regulate immigration, not that unlimited immigration is feasible. The flaw in your thinking comes from the fact that you associate a lack of government regulation with the existence of unlimited immigration.

There’s only so much land in America, and the immigrants will have to buy it or rent it to immigrate. Replace land with pretty much anything else and you can see that there are very real barriers to entry here. The question is, do the benefits of a modern economy and government payouts outweigh the costs and barriers to entry? At this point, it probably does, but we can only blame the government for socializing massive parts of the economy.

Realistically, we welcome both the skilled worker and the unskilled worker, as each new worker makes products on the net cheaper; when the payouts of government exceed the economic activity that the worker generates, then criticisms can be made. But that’s not really a fault of immigration but of government policy.

]]> By: Jon Ogden http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/the-benefits-of-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-45668 Jon Ogden Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:02:07 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/uncategorized/the-benefits-of-immigration/#comment-45668 The argument that America can accept unlimited immigration is simply an assurance that it is possible to put ten pounds of manure in a five pound bag. Since our resources are unlimited, the concept that "any peaceful person would be welcome," is balderdash. The argument that America can accept unlimited immigration is simply an assurance that it is possible to put ten pounds of manure in a five pound bag.

Since our resources are unlimited, the concept that “any peaceful person would be welcome,” is balderdash.

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