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	<title>Comments on: Mental Illness: From Shame to Pride</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050728140422/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working link:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050728140422/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20050728140422/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Loretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 05:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like although the Athens-Ohio branch of Nami had taken down their incriminating webpage, they were eventually archived, anyway.

I don&#039;t know who archived them, but here is the link, and you can see for yourself that NAMI is NOT ABOVE using lies as part of their &quot;advocacy&quot;.  Take a look:

http://web.archive.org/web/19970101-20051231re_/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like although the Athens-Ohio branch of Nami had taken down their incriminating webpage, they were eventually archived, anyway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who archived them, but here is the link, and you can see for yourself that NAMI is NOT ABOVE using lies as part of their &#8220;advocacy&#8221;.  Take a look:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/19970101-20051231re_/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/19970101-20051231re_/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Loretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Szasz is right, and he&#039;s not exaggerating the case.  (The NAMI 
leadership are at least as devious as he claims, or perhaps more devious than he has guessed.)  The _&quot;911 Calls&quot;_ article, written by zealous or true-believing NAMI drones (probably with the full approval of the NAMI leadership), is a telling example of how incredibly devious the true-believers of NAMI really are.

In addition to also tending to be thoroughtly right about most other things he say, also, Dr. Szasz is factually very accurate 
about the NAMI article that had been taken down from a New York 
website and then later re-published/forwarded in an Appalachian West-Ohio website named &quot;Seorf.OhioU.Edu&quot;, or rather (I say) &quot;SERF-OhioU-Edu&quot;.

Oh, by the way, the Serf-OhioU-edu website USED to have that scandalous web article -- the one in which an anonymous NAMI member recommended telling lies/half-&quot;truths&quot; to the police, but...

... some years later, Serf-OhioU-edu later took down that web article and the rest of the Serf-OhioU-edu.

I was able to see that article in the year 2003 -- but two years later noticed the article was missing, and apparently was taken down in 2004 (the year between my viewing the Serf-OhioU-edu article and the day it was apparently missing).

These people in fanatical psychiatric organizations such as NAMI are VERY SLY -- especially their leadership and the webmasters whom 
they hire.  They probably SECRETLY teach their group-members to &quot;turn over the furniture&quot; and to [Not Tell The Complete] truth; 
and NOW THEY PROBABLY WILL **NO** **LONGER** PUBLISH THEIR NAUSEATING ADVICE ON PUBLICALLY VIEWABLE WEB PAGES.  

(Instead, they now on -- my guess --  will probably teach their fellow NAMI members devious or unfair or deceitful practices in private little rooms -- if they at all continue teaching others to use Lying to accomplish their pet psychiatric agendas/ends, and I WOULD NOT PUT SUCH DEVIOUSNESS PAST THE LEADERSHIP OF NAMI.)

Never expect such devious people as NAMI leaders or NAMI teachers to inadvertantly confess for the third time their capacity to Tell A Lie -- they will probably cover up their one or two revealed faux-pas(-es) and THEN THEY WILL TRY TO ENSURE THAT THEY&#039;RE **NOT** **CAUGHT** the third time -- because that they very likely really don&#039;t want too many people to know what they&#039;re capable of.

NAMI leaders are the sort of people who don&#039;t like to be caught red-
handed or red-webpaged -- and so they will be very careful to NOT 
leave tell-tale evidence on the World Wide Web&#039;s public-viewing sites for the third time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Szasz is right, and he&#8217;s not exaggerating the case.  (The NAMI<br />
leadership are at least as devious as he claims, or perhaps more devious than he has guessed.)  The _&#8221;911 Calls&#8221;_ article, written by zealous or true-believing NAMI drones (probably with the full approval of the NAMI leadership), is a telling example of how incredibly devious the true-believers of NAMI really are.</p>
<p>In addition to also tending to be thoroughtly right about most other things he say, also, Dr. Szasz is factually very accurate<br />
about the NAMI article that had been taken down from a New York<br />
website and then later re-published/forwarded in an Appalachian West-Ohio website named &#8220;Seorf.OhioU.Edu&#8221;, or rather (I say) &#8220;SERF-OhioU-Edu&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, the Serf-OhioU-edu website USED to have that scandalous web article &#8212; the one in which an anonymous NAMI member recommended telling lies/half-&#8221;truths&#8221; to the police, but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; some years later, Serf-OhioU-edu later took down that web article and the rest of the Serf-OhioU-edu.</p>
<p>I was able to see that article in the year 2003 &#8212; but two years later noticed the article was missing, and apparently was taken down in 2004 (the year between my viewing the Serf-OhioU-edu article and the day it was apparently missing).</p>
<p>These people in fanatical psychiatric organizations such as NAMI are VERY SLY &#8212; especially their leadership and the webmasters whom<br />
they hire.  They probably SECRETLY teach their group-members to &#8220;turn over the furniture&#8221; and to [Not Tell The Complete] truth;<br />
and NOW THEY PROBABLY WILL **NO** **LONGER** PUBLISH THEIR NAUSEATING ADVICE ON PUBLICALLY VIEWABLE WEB PAGES.  </p>
<p>(Instead, they now on &#8212; my guess &#8212;  will probably teach their fellow NAMI members devious or unfair or deceitful practices in private little rooms &#8212; if they at all continue teaching others to use Lying to accomplish their pet psychiatric agendas/ends, and I WOULD NOT PUT SUCH DEVIOUSNESS PAST THE LEADERSHIP OF NAMI.)</p>
<p>Never expect such devious people as NAMI leaders or NAMI teachers to inadvertantly confess for the third time their capacity to Tell A Lie &#8212; they will probably cover up their one or two revealed faux-pas(-es) and THEN THEY WILL TRY TO ENSURE THAT THEY&#8217;RE **NOT** **CAUGHT** the third time &#8212; because that they very likely really don&#8217;t want too many people to know what they&#8217;re capable of.</p>
<p>NAMI leaders are the sort of people who don&#8217;t like to be caught red-<br />
handed or red-webpaged &#8212; and so they will be very careful to NOT<br />
leave tell-tale evidence on the World Wide Web&#8217;s public-viewing sites for the third time around.</p>
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