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		<title>By: Anti-Gold Conservatives Are Through &#124; Lew Rockwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti-Gold Conservatives Are Through &#124; Lew Rockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He favored tax-funded vouchers for education, which would automatically transfer tax money and thereby Supreme Court control over private education. He and I debated this issue in the pages of the Foundation for Economic Education&#8217;s monthly ma... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He favored tax-funded vouchers for education, which would automatically transfer tax money and thereby Supreme Court control over private education. He and I debated this issue in the pages of the Foundation for Economic Education&#8217;s monthly ma&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R.P. McCosker</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.P. McCosker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As posted above, neither Friedman nor North have it quite right, though North is trending far closer to the truth.

North, who happens to be a very religious man, restricts his critique to the religious restrictions which vouchers in the U.S. would impose, given the history of federal court decisions. In that sense, North is being highly restrained.

But the reality is that, once the government puts itself in the position of issuing educational vouchers, it will inevitably come to impose more and requirements on institutions which receive vouchers. (And, contrary to what Joe commented above, in the extremely unlikely event that homeschooler families could just keep the voucher funds for themselves, increasing requirements on those families would also apply.)

I saw this myself in recent years when California authorized state-funded &quot;charter schools&quot; that were supposed to be independent from the grossly failing standards of the &quot;public&quot; schools. Sure enough, with each passing year, more and more &quot;public&quot; school-type requirements have been imposed on the charter schools, so that now little difference remains. We can expect what few differences which exist to dissolve in the next 5-to-10 years. (Then &quot;public&quot; school advocates can proclaim that charter schools have failed in their mission to surpass &quot;public&quot; schools.)

Voucher education will always eventually fail -- sooner rather than later -- because, as Leonard Read noted about it, &quot;he who pays the fiddler calls the tune.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As posted above, neither Friedman nor North have it quite right, though North is trending far closer to the truth.</p>
<p>North, who happens to be a very religious man, restricts his critique to the religious restrictions which vouchers in the U.S. would impose, given the history of federal court decisions. In that sense, North is being highly restrained.</p>
<p>But the reality is that, once the government puts itself in the position of issuing educational vouchers, it will inevitably come to impose more and requirements on institutions which receive vouchers. (And, contrary to what Joe commented above, in the extremely unlikely event that homeschooler families could just keep the voucher funds for themselves, increasing requirements on those families would also apply.)</p>
<p>I saw this myself in recent years when California authorized state-funded &#8220;charter schools&#8221; that were supposed to be independent from the grossly failing standards of the &#8220;public&#8221; schools. Sure enough, with each passing year, more and more &#8220;public&#8221; school-type requirements have been imposed on the charter schools, so that now little difference remains. We can expect what few differences which exist to dissolve in the next 5-to-10 years. (Then &#8220;public&#8221; school advocates can proclaim that charter schools have failed in their mission to surpass &#8220;public&#8221; schools.)</p>
<p>Voucher education will always eventually fail &#8212; sooner rather than later &#8212; because, as Leonard Read noted about it, &#8220;he who pays the fiddler calls the tune.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 07:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what Friedman was saying is that you could spend your voucher money on whatever. So the government wouldn&#039;t have to regulate the schools to make sure you aren&#039;t just giving the money to some &#039;school&#039; that charges a dollar so you can keep the whatever-thousand dollar difference. You can keep the whatever thousand dollars right from the start because it wouldn&#039;t be compulsory to send your kids to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Friedman was saying is that you could spend your voucher money on whatever. So the government wouldn&#8217;t have to regulate the schools to make sure you aren&#8217;t just giving the money to some &#8216;school&#8217; that charges a dollar so you can keep the whatever-thousand dollar difference. You can keep the whatever thousand dollars right from the start because it wouldn&#8217;t be compulsory to send your kids to school.</p>
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		<title>By: John Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In one sense, Milton and Gary are talking different languages.  Friedman accepts government power as it is, and is all about the short-term enhancement of freedom from passing the voucher thing.  North is talking about the underlying assumptions that Friedman may be unaware of, and trying to show why the long-term results are opposite, and very bad.  
North&#039;s view has integrity, that is, consistency within itself, as well as a refusal to make foolish compromises.  Go North!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one sense, Milton and Gary are talking different languages.  Friedman accepts government power as it is, and is all about the short-term enhancement of freedom from passing the voucher thing.  North is talking about the underlying assumptions that Friedman may be unaware of, and trying to show why the long-term results are opposite, and very bad.<br />
North&#8217;s view has integrity, that is, consistency within itself, as well as a refusal to make foolish compromises.  Go North!</p>
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		<title>By: Against school vouchers - Eli&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against school vouchers - Eli&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read this article. It&#8217;s quite old, but it&#8217;s by one of my favorite authors, Gary North. I frequently read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read this article. It&#8217;s quite old, but it&#8217;s by one of my favorite authors, Gary North. I frequently read [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-gold conservatives &#171; foutwellink.nl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti-gold conservatives &#171; foutwellink.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He favored tax-funded vouchers for education, which would automatically transfer tax money and thereby Supreme Court control over private education. He and I debated this issue in the pages of the Foundation for Economic Education&#8217;s monthly ma... [...]</description>
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