Comments on: Berlin, August 1961: An Anniversary We Should Never Forget http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/ Ideas on Liberty Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:57:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: You’re a Prisoner | Lew Rockwell http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-52313 You’re a Prisoner | Lew Rockwell Fri, 09 Dec 2011 06:57:04 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-52313 [...] that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...] [...] that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...]

]]> By: Tear Down That Wall of Central Planning’s Prison State « Brave New Libertarian World http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-49001 Tear Down That Wall of Central Planning’s Prison State « Brave New Libertarian World Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:38:24 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-49001 [...] they earn and then be able to afford to care for their elderly family members once again.When that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...] [...] they earn and then be able to afford to care for their elderly family members once again.When that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...]

]]> By: Moving Beyond No-Win Elections & the U.S. Prison State – Part 1 of 2 « Truth & Culture http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-48195 Moving Beyond No-Win Elections & the U.S. Prison State – Part 1 of 2 « Truth & Culture Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:37:59 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-48195 [...] that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...] [...] that Berlin Wall came down and those formerly enslaved captives of the Eastern Bloc were given their freedom back, [...]

]]> By: John Walter Hamilton http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18968 John Walter Hamilton Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:41:03 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18968 Thomas Coon: Socialism is merely "Communism Lite." It is still the tyranny of the some over others. It is the tyranny of choice-suppression codified into law, but it is tyranny just the same. Decisions are being made for you by some bureaucrat with the power to force you too his will. The government is then no different than being Lord of the manner in Medieval times. No one should have power to control your life in any way outside of protecting you and others from being controlled in any way. Get it? Whether a socialist system works or not is beside the point. Serfdom worked for centuries, but it was still tyranny. Thomas Coon:

Socialism is merely “Communism Lite.” It is still the tyranny of the some over others. It is the tyranny of choice-suppression codified into law, but it is tyranny just the same. Decisions are being made for you by some bureaucrat with the power to force you too his will. The government is then no different than being Lord of the manner in Medieval times. No one should have power to control your life in any way outside of protecting you and others from being controlled in any way. Get it?

Whether a socialist system works or not is beside the point. Serfdom worked for centuries, but it was still tyranny.

]]> By: Donald M. Coder http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18938 Donald M. Coder Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:44:03 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18938 Here in China, the people are watching America with sadness and surprise and they ask if it is possible for America to go back to the days of freedom and market economy. They watch the destruction of the American currency and the growth of socialism, which the people here abandoned as a bad idea. I advise them that unfortunately freedom falls just as it is born, and Americans have decided to return to serfdom rather than solving their problems. Here in China, the people are watching America with sadness and surprise and they ask if it is possible for America to go back to the days of freedom and market economy. They watch the destruction of the American currency and the growth of socialism, which the people here abandoned as a bad idea. I advise them that unfortunately freedom falls just as it is born, and Americans have decided to return to serfdom rather than solving their problems.

]]> By: John Anello http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18928 John Anello Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:44:52 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18928 No connection between socialism and communism?....hmmm? “The goal of socialism is communism.” -Vladimir Lenin "This is unfortunately the same erroneous connection that has been thrust upon the American public for so long to prevent progress that needs to be made, such as a national healthcare systems by connecting projects that our government can perform to help fellow members of our society who are less well off." How’s national healthcare working out in the social democracies of Europe? See the following articles for a better reasoned perspective? http://www.thefreemanonline.org/tgif/welfare-state-corrupts/ http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/ranking-the-us-health-care-system/ No connection between socialism and communism?….hmmm?

“The goal of socialism is communism.”
-Vladimir Lenin

“This is unfortunately the same erroneous connection that has been thrust upon the American public for so long to prevent progress that needs to be made, such as a national healthcare systems by connecting projects that our government can perform to help fellow members of our society who are less well off.”

How’s national healthcare working out in the social democracies of Europe?

See the following articles for a better reasoned perspective?

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/tgif/welfare-state-corrupts/

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/ranking-the-us-health-care-system/

]]> By: Facebook User http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18918 Facebook User Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:13:27 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18918 I was with you right up until the all too common American mistake of equating communism, or rather the form that it took in the Soviet Union, China, etc. with socialism, which is erroneous as socialism exists in various forms in modern Europe (for instance Germany) and certainly no one is being threatened with being short to support it. This is unfortunately the same erroneous connection that has been thrust upon the American public for so long to prevent progress that needs to be made, such as a national healthcare systems by connecting projects that our government can perform to help fellow members of our society who are less well off. I'm all for the celebration of the destruction of the Berlin Wall and a victory of freedom over totalitarianism (which is really what the conflict was with, not with socialism), but to illegitimately connect socialism with with the system that existed in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact country is a both a gross misunderstanding of both and is being grossly dishonest to your readers. I was with you right up until the all too common American mistake of equating communism, or rather the form that it took in the Soviet Union, China, etc. with socialism, which is erroneous as socialism exists in various forms in modern Europe (for instance Germany) and certainly no one is being threatened with being short to support it. This is unfortunately the same erroneous connection that has been thrust upon the American public for so long to prevent progress that needs to be made, such as a national healthcare systems by connecting projects that our government can perform to help fellow members of our society who are less well off.

I’m all for the celebration of the destruction of the Berlin Wall and a victory of freedom over totalitarianism (which is really what the conflict was with, not with socialism), but to illegitimately connect socialism with with the system that existed in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact country is a both a gross misunderstanding of both and is being grossly dishonest to your readers.

]]> By: Lawrence Reed http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18916 Lawrence Reed Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:11:30 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18916 Thank you very much, Marsha! -- Larry Thank you very much, Marsha! — Larry

]]> By: Marsha Familaro Enright http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/berlin-august-1961-an-anniversary-we-should-never-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-18914 Marsha Familaro Enright Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:44:01 +0000 http://www.thefreemanonline.org/?p=13548#comment-18914 Thanks for a wonderful article celebrating a momentous day. To the socialists who often attack advocates of the free market as "obsessed with self-interest" I say: yes, I'm obsessed with each individual's opportunity to achieve the happiness for his or her life, and freedom enables that to happen. Thanks for a wonderful article celebrating a momentous day. To the socialists who often attack advocates of the free market as “obsessed with self-interest” I say: yes, I’m obsessed with each individual’s opportunity to achieve the happiness for his or her life, and freedom enables that to happen.

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